TRANSCRIPTION OF :
'NOTES & OBSERVATIONS, Critical & Explanatory, on the Papers Relative to
the Internal State of the Country, Recently Presented to Parliament;
to which is appended,
a REPLY to Mr. Francis Philips's
'Exposure of the Calumnies
circulated by the Enemies of Social Order ..."
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OFFICIAL
CORRESPONDENCE,
&c. &c.
Pages 44 to 46
Dunham Massey, August 12, 1819.
My Lord,
I HAVE the honour to enclose your Lordship a Copy of a Resolution made at the adjourned General Quarter Sessions for the County of Chester, held at Nether Knutsford, on Monday the 9th of August, 1819.
I have the honour to be,
My Lord,
Your Lordship's most obedient humble Servant,
STAMFORD & WARRINGTON
LIEUTENANT.
The Viscount Sidmouth
&c. &c. &c.
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At an Adjournment of the General Quarter Sessions for the County of Chester, held at Nether Knutsford, on Monday the 9th of August, 1819;
Present, Sir John Thomas Stanley, Bart. Chairman.
The Earl of Stamford and Warrington, His Majesty's Lieutenant,
Peter Brooke, Esq.
Edwin Corbett, Esq.
Davies Davenport, Esq.
Wilbraham Egerton, Esq.
John Ford, Esq.
John Clegg, Esq.
Egerton Leigh, Esq.
Thomas Parker, Esq.
Edward Stracey, Esq.
Edward Venables Townshend, Esq.
Trafford Trafford, Esq.
Thomas William Tatton, Esq.
Randle Wilbraham, Esq.
John Brown, Clerk.
James Thomas Law, Clerk.
John Holdsworth Mallory, Clerk.
Resolved, That it is the opinion of this Court, that meetings are held in this and the neighbouring counties for the purpose of training to arms and seditious purposes; and also, that there are schools, consisting of some thousands of young persons, in which principles of a most dangerous tendency to the community at large are industriously disseminated - which facts can be verified on oath. - And it is the decided opinion of this Court, that these meetings and schools ought to he suppressed; and if the existing laws are not sufficient for that purpose, that other laws should be immediately framed for their prevention. (I.)
Ordered, that a Copy of the foregoing Resolution be sent to His Majesty's Secretary of State for the Home Department, through the Lord Lieutenant of this County.
HENRY POTTS,
Clerk of the Peace.
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(I) When I look to the list of names present on this occasion, it is impossible for me to express the surprise I feel at the extraordinary manner in which these gentlemen have committed themselves. It is so new a circumstance to find the suppression of schools recommended, that we have a right to expect to see the strongest arguments backed by the most undeniable evidence to justify even the mentioning of so startling a proposition. If at any of these schools "principles of a most dangerous tendency to the community are industriously disseminated - which facts can be verified upon oath," why are they not so verified? Depositions by persons of character and reputation to this fact, would have been much more important than any which ministers have published. But, notwithstanding this positive statement of the Cheshire magistrates, no such schools exist or ever have existed. The ground upon which I venture this direct contradiction will be stated hereafter.
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Stockport, 14th August, 1819.
Sir,
THE lower orders are in a dreadful state - not by distress, for there is work for most that may be willing, except the weavers, who are badly off, and yet perhaps not the worst of the reforming crew; I mean they are quite bold and insulting, and reckon on a speedy and radical change to give them complete power over us.
A man has come to me from the neighbourhood of Oldham, and states, that the person he worked for had judged prudent to discontinue til things are settled.
The tenants of a gentleman near this town refuse to pay their rents till they know the issue of the Monday's meeting. (K)
Your very humble Servant,
J. LLOYD.
H. Hobhouse, Esq.
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(K) There is a disgusting, flippant, and passionate vulgarity in the style of Mr. Lloyd, who is clerk to the magistrates at Stockport, as manifested in this and his preceding letter, which marks him as a person by no means qualified to convey accurate and unimpeachable information with respect to the subjects on which he writes. His indecent phraseology of the "lower orders," and the "reforming crew," his numerous grammatical inaccuracies, and the fact of his being one of the prime supports of a neighbouring Orange-club, give a sufficient indication of the cast and capacity of his mind. I must, therefore, be excused for withholding my credit from the stories of the "man from Oldham," and "the tenants of a gentleman near this town," &c. If the poor are to be calumniated as they have been on such authority, and, on the credit of those calumnies, cut down, - God help them I say!
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'NOTES & OBSERVATIONS, Critical & Explanatory, on the Papers Relative to the Internal State of the Country, Recently Presented to Parliament; to which is appended, a REPLY to Mr. Francis Philips's 'Exposure of the Calumnies circulated by the Enemies of Social Order ...'
by
a 'Member of the Manchester Committee for Relieving the Sufferers of the 16th August 1819 (Ascribed to John Edward Taylor)
Pub. Dec1919
Transcribed by Sheila Goodyear 2019
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